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Thursday, January 17, 2013

The 2nd Amednment & The Problems Of Doctors Assessing Likelihood of Violence

I blogged below that the most troublesome aspect of Obama's new anti-gun push was the interplay between doctors' assessments of mental illness and 2nd Amendment Rights. A recent story by NPR shows how difficult it is for the mental health community to assess the likelihood of future violence. NPR does so in the context of addressing a recently enacted NY law that "says mental health professionals must report people they consider likely to do harm. It also gives law enforcement officials the power to take guns from these people " This from NPR:

States aren't likely to prevent many shootings by requiring mental health professionals to report potentially violent patients, psychiatrists and psychologists say.

The approach is part of a gun control law passed in New York yesterday in response to the Newtown, Conn., shooting a month ago. But it's unlikely to work because assessing the risk of violent behavior is difficult, error-prone and not something most mental health professionals are trained to do it, say specialists who deal with violence among the mentally ill.

"We're not likely to catch very many potentially violent people" with laws like the one in New York, says Barry Rosenfeld, a professor of psychology at Fordham University in The Bronx. . . .

Such laws "cast a very large net that will probably restrict a lot of people's behavior unnecessarily," Rosenfeld says. "Maybe we'll prevent an incident or two," he says. . . .

One of the biggest problems with laws like the one in New York is that it asks all mental health professionals to make assessments that are difficult for even those with years of special training, says Rosenfeld.

Rosenfeld says when he is called in to assess a person's risk of violence, "I typically have the benefit of a lengthy face-to-face interview, records on their criminal and mental health history, a tremendous amount of information at my disposal that the typical mental health professional on the fly simply doesn't have."

And even highly trained professionals with lots of information often get it wrong, research shows.

A study of experienced psychiatrists at a major urban psychiatric facility found that they were wrong about which patients would become violent about 30 percent of the time.

That's a much higher error rate than with most medical tests, says Alan Teo, a psychiatrist at the University of Michigan and an author of the study.

One reason even experienced psychiatrists are often wrong is that there are only a few clear signs that a person with a mental illness is likely to act violently, says Steven Hoge, a professor of psychiatry at Columbia University. These include a history of violence and a current threat to commit violence.

Without either of these, Hoge says, "an accurate assessment of the likelihood of future violence is virtually impossible."

"The biggest risk for gun violence is possession of a gun," says Hoge. "And there's no evidence that the mentally ill possess guns or commit gun violence at any greater rate than the normal population."

Obviously, using "mental illness" as a reason for denying 2nd Amendment rights is far more problematic than many of us non-shrinks initially thought.





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Sunday, March 9, 2008

Interesting Posts From Around The Web - 9 March 2008


A round-up of interesting posts from around the web, all below the fold.

Art: Marathon, Carl Rottman, 1648
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Likelihood of Success: Ron Coleman ponders the massacre of students in Israel. I do not agree with his conclusion, but it is thoughtful, moral, and thus must be accorded great respect.

Soccer Dad: Retaliation for the massacre needs to be swift, far ranging and brutal. "[P]eace is impossible with Palestinian leaders for whom reconciliation is a one-way process."

The Irish Elk: March 7, 203 and the martrydom of Saints Perpetua & Felicitas

This Ain’t Hell: NPR angers their audience with conservative heresy.

Yourish: The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Ironic Surrealism: Heh. You might be a Taliban if . . . . (my favorite: "You wipe your butt with your bare left hand, but consider bacon ‘unclean.’")

Soob: The intersection of evolutionary psychology, polygamy and Muslim suicide bombers.

The Fulham Reactionary: How clueless is the chattering class in the UK? Perhaps you can discuss it while pondering the solution to racism as part of an interracial gathering for coffee and biscuits with the UK’s Culture Minister.

Sheik Yer’Mami: The latest in jihad news, including al Qaeda plants in London’s police force, hanging homosexuals in Iran, and UK’s odious Home Secretary banning Jews to appease the Islamists.

No Oil For Pacifists: Solid arguments for the efficacy of telecom immunity provisions in FISA.

Dhivehistan Report: Miss Sri Lanka – hot chick.

Whited Sepulchre: Thus sayeth Thomas Sowell on NAFTA, thus let it be written.

Faultline: Obamacans may be a con.

Vast RightWing Conspiracy: Hillary’s ridiculous claims to have played a substantive role in the Irish peace negotiations.

Red Alerts: A great link round-up, including posts on slavery in Saudi Arabia and the web’s sexiest nerds.

An Englishman’s Castle: Media silence on the Manhattan Declaration and global warming fraud.

A Western Heart: A must see pic for the global warming crowd.

MK’s Views: More feel good leftiness without any scientific support.

Covenant Zone: Keen insight - the history of man is predicated on first-guessers.

Liberty Corner: A classical ethical bind for lawyers is not so difficult for non-lawyers.

VenjanzTruth: A blacklash on the Robert Downey Jr. satire.

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